[Workaround.org] Working on the Lenny tutorial

Christoph Haas email at christoph-haas.de
Tue Mar 31 13:04:50 CEST 2009


On Dienstag, 31. März 2009, Pete Boyd wrote:
> >> I personally use an Ubuntu server (I know, I sold my soul ;-) ) and
> >> since their release schedule is different from Debian it would be
> >> nice to be able to figure out what changes might happen if I upgrade
> >> the server (I plan on sticking with the 8.04LTS release, but just in
> >> case).
> >
> > Okay, will do. Since many people seem to use Ubuntu even for their
> > servers (I would not likely recommend using Ubuntu on anything else
> > but a simple workstation but that's just me and I'm biased anyway :) )
> > perhaps an Ubuntu version would be nice, too. Or if you could verify
> > that the Lenny tutorial works as-is on Ubuntu.
>
> It's worth noting that Ubuntu Server Edition includes an option to setup
> a mail server:
> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/mails
>erver
>
> Presumably this Ubuntu mail server is setup from the installation menu
> or with the installation of a single package.

From reading that page I get the impression that it just installs a few 
basic .deb packages. "ClamAV antivirus and SpamAssassin are now part of 
the main repository, which make them fully supported and maintained 
options, and can both be easily integrated with postfix using 
amavisd-new." probably doesn't mean any kind of integration or 
configuration.

> I think it worthwhile assessing whether it's worth putting the effort
> into maintaining any kind of Ubuntu option with the ISP-mail guide
> because of the existence of the Ubuntu mail server.

The packages in Ubuntu and Debian should be pretty similar (if not 
identical). Ubuntu may just ship with a newer version and as I'm lazy I 
wouldn't want to rewrite the tutorial once some new Ubuntu version is 
released. But adding a note about Ubuntu here and there wouldn't hurt. 
Especially as we have people using Ubuntu and are willing to test it.

> Also I'd call into question whether it's worthwhile because very minor
> differences between distributions can mean the difference between a
> working and a non-working mail server after following the guide - is
> someone going to keep track of the differences between Debian and Ubuntu
> closely enough that they can guarantee that the guide will work on
> Ubuntu?
>
> I believe such a near guarantee, that if you follow the guide precisely
> then everything should work, is one of the best features of this guide.

Let's hear what the Ubuntu fans say. I myself will very likely keep using 
Debian and won't enjoy testing everything on Ubuntu, too. But Ubuntu is 
without a doubt pretty popular and I think deserves a good mail setup. But 
I also fear a little that the Ubuntu contributors lose interest and then 
we'll end up with the same problem I already encountered with 
translations - it gets out of date.

Cheers
 Christoph
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